Cosco Scenera NEXT: Small Seat, Big Value!

AC RF vehicleLightweight, colour options, inexpensive ($99), narrow, and long-lasting YES PLEASE! What’s not to love!

Dorel, parent company of Cosco, has brought the Cosco Scenera NEXT to the Canadian market and it is a fantastic addition to our line-up. They are also bringing some interesting features that are unique, so like always, you must read your manual. Available online at Walmart.ca or possibly in store from time to time we think you’ll like what you get for the price.

Seat Specs:

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Rear-facing 5-40lbs, 19-40″, head level with the top of the shell.
Forward-facing 22-40lbs, 29-43″, at least two years old, top of the ears level with the top of the shell.

We very much like the layout in the NEXT manual – clear, concise, easy to follow. And to highlight an important minimum a child MUST be at least 2 years old to forward-face. Go Dorel! This a trend we expect to see on more and more seats in the Canadian market.

  • Machine washable and dryable cover
  • Removable cup holder
  • Weighs less than 8lbs
  • Use of lower anchors (UAS, LATCH) for the full harness weight of the seat
  • Large range of install angles when rear-facing
  • 8 years until expiry
  • NEW! (August 2016) – harness covers available for purchase directly from Cosco

It is also extremely important to note that if you use this seat to the max rear-facing, as we encourage you to do, it will not be usable at all forward-facing. You may not know this looking at the specs and so it’s important to understand why. When rear-facing the harness comes from at or BELOW a child’s shoulders, keeping him down and contained within the seat during a crash. When forward-facing the harness comes from at or ABOVE a child’s shoulders. The design of the NEXT is such that a child will fit longer rear-facing than forward…and that’s okay. It does it extremely well, so read on!

Here is the same child rear- and forward-facing: At age just-turned-two (the minimum to use it forward-facing), 35″ tall, and 28lbs it is outgrown already forward-facing as the harness is no longer at or above his shoulders…but LOTS of room left rear-facing.

AC RF vehicle AC FF vehicle AC FF harness height

Take home message here Consider the NEXT a rear-facing only seat, something it does with ease. Kind of like an infant seat with no handle. It is highly functional in rear-facing mode so that is what we will focus on.

Fit To Vehicle…NEXT weight

…is spectacular. Truly. It fits in small spaces. It’s on the narrow side. It’s lightweight and easy to install. When mine arrived I dangled it from a digital fish scale (everyone has one of these, right maybe it’s for luggage…) and it came in a 7lbs 10oz. Amazing!

 

RF level lineThe NEXT has a line on the side that must be parallel to the ground for children who can not sit up unassisted – this is to protect the child’s airway and enables them to keep their heads properly tilted back. For children who can sit up unassisted the NEXT can be installed more upright, and this is where its amazingness comes out. It can fit in extremely small spaces front to back, leaving ample room for front seat passengers.

Those of you who had a second child and felt the only way to have room to drive was to turn your child forward Rejoice! Chances are excellent that the NEXT can enable rear-facing a good long while yet. Pretty awesome eh Some visual examples of just how much room it gives; even more front to back space can be gained installing with this body positioning technique (a different seat is shown but the pelvic brace + peeling the cover back is what you’re after). We also like that the harness adjuster mechanism (that button you push to loosen the harness) isn’t buried when rear-facing.

2012 Ford F-150 extended cab with suicide doors – my tallish self can sit in the passenger seat no problem even with the NEXT at the fully reclined newborn angle.

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2012 Ford Focus hatchback. With the NEXT at the newborn angle behind the passenger I had more room in the passenger seat in this car than I have had with any other rear-facing seat. Install it more upright in the middle and both driver’s and passenger’s seats can be all the way back.

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NEXT also makes a 3-across pretty doable. This is of course dependent entirely on the vehicle and what seats it is beside but the compactness plus narrow shape at the bight (the part that makes contact with the vehicle seat back and bottom) is very 3-across friendly. Furthermore it leaves room to buckle a booster next to it.

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3-across in a 2012 Ford Focus hatchback.

3 across in a VW Jetta - NEXT is the blue one in the middle.

3 across in a VW Jetta – NEXT is the blue one in the middle.

Bottom line is it installed everywhere we tried it. While I’m sure it is possible to have an incompatibility out there somewhere we haven’t yet discovered one rear-facing.

Truth be told…we didn’t much bother with forward-facing. If you’re going to forward-face an under-two then you can’t use this seat to do it, and if your child is average-to-large in height or torso length chances are it’s nearly outgrown forward-facing so again, not the seat for you! Plenty of other rear- and forward-facing options on the market though.

Fit to Child

Like all things car seat, reading your manual is SUPER important. The NEXT has very specific, very unique harness routing and crotch buckle routing for use with a newborn. If you use the lowest harness position you MUST route as directed. This is to shorten the harness sufficiently for a newborn, enabling proper tightening. With the 5lb minimum weight, and low harness height, combined with ability to properly shorten the harness, we expect it will fit the average newborn quite well.

2 weeks old, 7.5lbs, 20.5" long this wee one is already on the second-lowest harness slot!

2 weeks old, 7.5lbs, 20.5″ long this wee one is already on the second-lowest harness slot!

NEXT does not come with infant padding but please do use rolled receiving blankets, such as pictured here, for side support if needed. Don’t put anything behind or around baby’s head — no aftermarket head positioners as they’re not approved for use with this seat.

AL infant routing

6 weeks old; 11.5lbs, 22.5″ long.

 

SK RF

15 months, 22lbs, and 31″ tall.

SK RF big kid

2.5 years old, 25lbs, 34″ tall.

 

This evenly proportioned child is right near the height limit at 39.5″ tall and 35lbs…but at 3 years, 9 months he fit for a long time, with ample leg room.

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Longevity and fit also depends, of course, on child proportions. In the green shirt: 2.5, 30lbs, 37″ with a long torso. In the purple shirt: 4 years old, 31lbs, 38.5″ tall. Loads of leg room too! Although these kids are similarly sized the long torso on the younger child means he won’t fit in the seat quite as long as his older sister. Most seats require at least 1″ of shell above the head (in addition to being within height and weight limits); the NEXT allows a child’s head to be even with the top. Both of these kids have lots of room left by shell height and weight but are coming close by standing height. The seat is outgrown whenever ONE limit has been met, so keep an eye on all three!

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Other points to note:

We quite like the new look of the manual. Easy to follow and hopefully easy for parents to use properly. Please read your manual – car seat and vehicle – before installing!

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NEXT is a super option for airplane travel. Remember it weighs less than 8lbs so not only will it be easy to transport through the airport, it will be easy to carry on to the aircraft. The compact size and no limit to how upright it can be is a handy feature. If you’ve never traveled with a car seat before please consider it for your next trip; your child can sleep in a familiar place, and s/he can be safely restrained in case of turbulence, rough landing, or aborted take-off. Bonus Rear face that kiddo and no worrying about stopping him from kicking the seat in front of him.

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The seat padding is pretty comfy, and the cover is machine washable and dryable. You have to remove the harness to remove the pad but that’s quick and easy. We love that it’s available in six different cover options !

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Do you love colour Patterns Prefer for your car seat to match your upholstery Want something to best camouflage kid dirt and detritus? You have lots of choice with the NEXT! We love choice.

NEXT Moon Mist Grey NEXT River Run Blue NEXT red NEXT Lime Punch NEXT Broadway dots NEXT Otto

 

Overall Impressions:

Superb value and longevity in this seat provided you use it as a rear-facing only option. That is its true use, and it will easily get most kids rear-facing past age 3. If your child is long-torsoed and hugely tall then you might want to explore other options. The NEXT will enable those of you with small cars to keep on rear-facing your kids even behind a tall adult. Remember that 2 year minimum to forward-face…we’re going to see that on more and more seats in the future and huge props to Dorel for bringing the NEXT to market with that limit. Easily removable cover, detachable cup holder to store treasures, cute covers, and lightweight shell make the NEXT a winner in our books.

Now…want to win one? Thank you to Dorel Juvenile Group for providing one Scenera NEXT in the colour of your choice (based on availability) to one lucky person in Canada! Giveaway is over – thanks to all who entered, and congrats to our lucky winner!

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147 comments to Cosco Scenera NEXT: Small Seat, Big Value!

  • Sophia Middleton

    Would be perfect for a back up/travel seat!

  • Natalie

    I love that it fits in such small spaces!

  • Since I know my 4.5yr old fits it would mean she could remain rear facing in her grandparents vehicle where her myride doesn’t work!

  • Kelsie

    Love how long this rear faces for how affordable it is. No need to break the bank for our back up seat.

  • Janine S

    I would love this seat! We currently have a Maxi Cosi Mico installed in a Mazda 3 and its such a right fit, dreading having to install the larger rear facing seat.

  • Very cool, I’ve been looking at getting one for an extra seat.

  • Nicole Jackson

    I’d love to try this seat in my Mazda 3 Sport, our passenger seat is seriously cramped for 2 tall parents!

  • Kristen St. Gelais

    I love how this can fit in small vehicles and that it requires 2yrs + to forward face

  • Gemma Laporte

    Great review! Love seeing more lower budget friendly seats that’ll keep our Littles RF longer. Adding this to my list of recommended seats for sure 🙂

  • Amy

    I love the fact that you cannot forward face until 2 years old in this car seat. Although, I understand the importance of rear facing for as long as possible it is hard to get others to truly understand how much more safe it really is. I worry that my boyfriend or the grandparents will insist on ff because it’s easier and more convenient for them. With this car seat they will have no choice! Also love that it’s compact, light weight and comes in an assortment of pretty patterns!

  • Angel

    With me going back to work we need a second car seat. She’s 2.5 and I don’t want to spend a fortune on a 3 in 1! Love the colour options

  • Catrienna Lynch

    Its so compact! Would love to see if it would give my husband more leg room! (damn 6’4″ men)

  • Heather Murphy

    What an amazing compact seat. My little guy will love it for his first big boy seat!

  • Natalie

    I love that it fits in such small spaces.

  • Love the rear facing limits on a very budget friendly seat!

  • Tennille Whiteford

    I love that it is compact, the price point and the 2 year forward face minimum!

  • This would make a great travel seat for my little guy!

  • I would love one of theses seats – have heard so many great things and love that it is for extended rear-facing. Aaaaand I need a new seat for my youngest!

  • Katie Loos

    This looks like a great affordable option to use in Grandma’s small car while she does our daycare 🙂

  • Will it change my life Not likely but I want to see if I can get a easier to buckle 3 across in my car….. which I guess could be life changing.

    Right

  • Heather

    This seat looks like it could be a great fit for our weird Subaru bench seats!

  • Vanessa Burke

    This seat looks amazing! We are having a third baby in December and are in the market to find the third seat to fit in between her big brothers in the back! This looks perfect!

  • Heather Murphy

    This is amazing! My little guy would love this for his first big boy seat!

  • Monique L.S.

    I love how light it is. Great for travelling.

  • Jennifer

    The next is going to allow us to keep both our children rear facing in my husbands small car once baby is out of the bucket

  • Annie Cormier

    I would love one! I love that it fits smaller space! My 2 rearfacing kids could benifit from this seat! 🙂

  • Beth R.

    Love the emphasis on extended rear facing with this seat. Also love it’s ability to fit well in different vehicles, making it handy to switch in with relatives/our second car.

  • I’m hoping that this fits in the 3rd row of the Mazda 5 with the 2nd row seats fully back. And, I love that this seat fits small spaces, ERFs and is affordable for most people.

  • I love how little it is! I wouldn’t need it for myself, but I have someone in mind that I would give it to, that could use a compact seat like this!

  • I love how little it is! I wouldn’t need it myself, but I have someone in mind that I would give it to, that could use a compact seat!

  • Megan Pongoski

    This seems like an awesome seat!! Would make travelling a breeze

  • Megan Pongoski

    Send like a great seat! It would make travelling easy and convenient !

  • Abby F

    I love the rear facing limit and the fact that it is 8 pounds! I could really use this.

  • sharon

    I currently have an alpha omega and it’s hell to move between cars and it leaves other passengers with no room at all. If I won the NEXT, I’d be able to seat my family in the car comfortably and keep my baby rear facing for longer

  • This is a great giveaway. I would love to win this seat. I have been wanting one since they came out.

  • Love the higher rear facing limits for a smaller seat! Need options like this for my Subaru (small back seat area).

  • Ashley

    I would love to win one for the bonus child I often need to transport.

  • Three across potential in my Ford Focus!

  • Asleep12

    Would love one of these as a backup in my Hubby’s car. Two dionos were definetly not in the budget. Only having one car with a seat has been problematic at times with pick ups or drops offs.

  • I would love to use this as a travel/spare seat!

  • Megan

    We have a 2012 f-150 with suicide doors and have been struggling to find a seat that will rear face comfortably. I’m so glad I read this review!

    • jshapka

      Super handy that one of the vehicles shown is exactly what you have! You also have many choices for what will fit in the centre , lots goes in there 🙂

  • I love how long you can rear face and that its less than $100. With some unexpected expenses suddenly arising this would be perfect timing!

  • Krista M

    My own kids are past this stage, but I have friends with their first baby (7 months old) who this would be awesome for! It would certainly make life easier for them. I like how it’s useful up to 40lbs & the washable covers are a MUST.. because we all know these little ones can create some big disasters!

  • To not have to move car seats between vehicles. There fore making it safer, with a one time correct install.

  • Sunshine H

    A friend is having a baby soon and she has ‘borrowed’ carseats from friends, I would love to be able to give her a brand new one and not worry that one of the ones she is using has been compromised somehow.

  • I love how lightweight it is. It’ll be the perfect car seat for our travels next month.

  • Tannis W

    If this seat does in fact fit in small spaces, then yes, it would change my life! That would be wonderful! As a tall person and wanting to rear face my child for as long as possible, it seems that I will have my knees in the dashboard for awhile, unless we can find a seat that fits well in our car.

  • My mom is wanting to start picking up my son from daycare, this would be perfect for her to use! She could even take her granddaughter out when babysitting! Will also use it myself for when we have another baby from birth. It’s such a great little seat.

  • Marcela Hindson

    Love the size of this seat specially for rf in my mazda 3. My daughter was ff when she was 1 yo and the only reason why is because i wasnt educat3d enough! Im planning to rf my boy for at least 2 years but have feel8ng 9t will be a challenge to find compact carseat.

  • This looks like a great seat!! Definitely going to check it out!

  • I’m really looking forward to outings with my grandchildren but don’t have a carseat yet. The red, green or blue would look great in my car

  • Absolutely LOVE how it RFs as long as it does and that the FF option isn?t one until 2 years old (minimum)!! Amazing, and kudos to Dorel for implementing that standard! Add to that the incredible price, and this seat is an all-around winner!!
    We will be looking for a great seat for upcoming travel and this will likely be our choice! In the meantime, this might also make it?s way into our family if we end up needing a third/grandparent seat for our newborn
    I can?t wait to tell others about it and recommend it as a go-to seat. Will definitely be checking it out on our next jaunt to walmart.

  • We would use this to give more front to back room for the passenger (tall family here)!

  • What a fantastic review. Definitely makes me want one more, only way I will get one as I don’t ‘need’ one says the husband will be from this draw!

  • Stephanie Wei

    Want to try to fit two seats and a passenger in a small car so excited to try this one!

  • I love that it takes up less room front to back!

  • Megan Simmons

    Love how compact that it is, giving more space, but still keeping my lil one safe. Also love the pattern fabric choices.

  • I would love to win this for my grandson… we had one stolen along with a vehicle a couple of weeks ago. This car seat seems to fit the bill for price, size and being able to fit in gramma’s vehicle.

  • EW

    I love how perfect this is for travelling – especially how lightweight.

  • Kat Davenport

    This would actually fit my teeny tiny car! Love it! 🙂

  • Having 3 kids in car seats it would be amazing if I could fit all 3 in the back seat of any car

  • Ashley Harrison

    I love how narrow it is and how much room front seat passengers have. And it’s a great price! I hope it will work for my little girl though, as she’s always been on the tall side.

  • I love how compact this is. And the colours! Double win!

  • This would be fantastic in my mpv to fit 3 across!

  • love the patterns and the age minimum!

  • Karlee Gagnon

    This is an exciting option since our current seat only fits rear facing in the middle and our second child is on the way. This seat will enable our 3 yr old to remain rear facing for longer. I also like the red colour and will most likely get 2 or 3 one for the new baby and one for grandma’s as well!

  • Tricia

    We need a travel seat for our newborn! This one is perfect

  • Danielle

    This would work so well in the 8th seat of my expedition, love how compact and narrow it is.

  • I love how compact this seat is! It would make a great travel seat!

  • This is a must-have seat for 3 across in my Lancer when baby #3 gets here in 10 ish weeks. Keeping my then two-year-old rear facing with her baby sister 🙂

  • Shannon Hagerman

    Thanks so much for the detailed review. I’m looking for a rear facing seat for my Toyota Echo and my partners Honda Civic and this sounds like the perfect fit for our budget, our petite little eight month old and our compact cars.

  • Bri Parnell

    would be a great lightweight travel seat for my daughter!

  • Lisa Rempel

    This would fit great in our Toyota Matrix and love that it is rear facing up to age two!

  • Karen Jackson Bertucci

    I’m very excited about them making ERF mandatory and hope others will follow suit! Also looks great for travel etc.

  • Brittany Kennedy

    I love that it’s compact and encourages rear facing longevity! Thanks for the opportunity!

  • Like that it is small since are vehicle is plus the colors are awesome. We have another baby coming soon so we can always use more car seats!

  • Janice K

    I love that this is a great seat to suggest to parents that have space issues (both side to side and front to back), and is affordable.

  • Sara Wohlmuth

    I would love the polka dot one to use in Grandma car!!

  • Denise

    I am getting my car back and would love this seat for my 1 year old. I feel it would fit perfectly in my vehicle.

  • Stephanie Bruvall

    Now that my 15 month old has outgrown his infant seat, we need another backup. With this seat, we would just need to decide who would get it, him or his 4 year old sister.

  • Sascha

    Love the lightweight, will make a nice travel seat.

  • Sarah davey

    I really appreciate the 2 year minimum for FF.

  • Anne Byrnes

    So light! That would make traveling with it so easy!

  • S Hope Smith

    Love the guidelines about rear facing and think it’s lightweight feature will lend well to travel. Oh and machine washable cover is a great bonus.

  • Jenn Pardalis

    Great seat! I love that it’s not very wide! I’m looking for a new seat for my 3 YO as hers is in shabby shape and this is so cute!

  • Chelsea

    What a great versatile seat!

  • Jessica

    This would make a great seat for my nephew who is about to outgrow his bucket. We want to keep him rearfacing to the max!!

  • Danica Margarit

    Love this seat! Would love to win one for my newest baby!

  • Brigitte Lamontagne

    I would love to win this car seat!
    We are flying back to Quebec for Christmas so it will be the perfect seat for us 🙂

  • Amanda C

    We travel a lot to see relatives so size and weight is a huge plus for us… Not to mention the cool colours, all for a very reasonable price!!

  • V?ronique

    Love that it’s compact and great for travel!

  • Laila Davies

    Sounds like this would be a great fit for our small car. And how awesome would it be for our upcoming flight, waaay lighter than lugging even our most basic carseat around.

  • Laura Johnson

    This would be perfect in our small car! Need a new seat for when the little one outgrows the bucket seat.

  • Jessica Scallen

    i love how light and compact it is!

  • Jacquie Van Dyk

    I love how compact it is. It would be great for our baby who is due in 6 weeks!!

  • Michelle Rai

    if I won this I would donate it to a refugee family or a family at a local women’s shelter.

  • Stephanie

    It’d be a great travel seat for my youngest!

  • Annie

    Love how light it is and the choice of colours!!

  • Tiffnee

    Love the value for the price

  • M H

    It would be a great travel seat and spare grandparent seat!

  • jolan holmes

    I love how compact it is and the choice of colours, it would be a great second seat for my husbands car

  • Heather

    Great price!

  • I’m excited to see how small it is! I have a niece I think this seat would be perfect for!

  • Yoko

    I love that it is a budget seat good for extended rear facing, also compact and light. Great colour options too!

  • Amanda

    I love that this seat promotes extended rear facing!!!

  • Angela

    Looks pretty awesome. Will be considering this one for a secondary seat!

  • Due with my second today and this would be an awesome seat to give us a little more space in the back seat. 🙂

  • Kelsie

    Love the affordability to keep them rfing

  • Geraldine Elliott

    My super tall husband would be stoked to have a little extra leg room.

  • Ashlie connolly

    I’m so excited about this seat! This would come in perfect timing as my daughter is about to outgrow the bucket. She will get her brothers Radian in my car, but we need another seat for daddy’s truck. Awesome option for extended RF and so budget friendly!

  • Shannon

    I think this might be the answer to keeping our kiddo RF while not squishing the front passengers and still fitting our large dog on the back seat! Love the price as well

  • amelia

    This seat will be perfect for travel with young kids. We are planning on flying when our baby is 10 months old and she will be in a NEXT.

  • I love that it is a budget friendly seat that will last to 40 inches rear facing, and the 2yr MIN for forward facing!

  • Mandy Callbeck

    Would love to win this seat! Our current seat is big bulky and hard to install. I could use a seat that is light weight, comfortable and stylish.

  • Laurelyn

    Would love this seat for travel and a spare for grandma’s car.

  • This would be a great back up and travel seat for us!

  • Would love either grey or blue.

  • Anna Charlton

    So glad they listened and updated the limits on the Scenera and brought out the NEXT.

  • Love the 2 year minimum and small size of this seat

  • Jessica Bradford

    Would love this seat. I run a home daycare and safety is very important to me.

  • Sarah

    This seat would change our lives! Right now my seat doesn’t go back far enough on the passenger side – whoever is in the front seat has to go cross legged

  • A NEXT would not change me life, but possibly the life of the person I might give it away to.

  • Stacey

    Would love to win to pass on to a friend in need!

  • Colleen J

    The fact it fits in compact cars well and has more than one angle for rearfacing.

  • Jocelyn Carter-Sim

    This looks like a fantastic option. Just in the process of looking into our next car seat and could see this one could be great and good for travel too. Love the grey one.

  • Kayla Stratton

    It would completely change my life, and my daughters! I love that it weighs so little. I hate having to carry around our seat because it is heavy and is a big pain. I love that it has so much cushion and padding to it. My daughter’s tailbone curves out due to a syndrome she has, so she has a hard time sitting on most seats because of it. This one looks like it would be way more comfortable for her!

  • Devon

    I would LOVE to win one of these! I have a baby coming in March, and I’m looking for a narrow compact seat. I LOVE that it allows a more upright install for older babies 😀 I would pick blue.

  • Jennine

    Would love this for our girl who is outgrowing her bucket seat!

  • Katie

    Love the 2 year rear facing minimum!

  • Grandmas car needs a new seat and this would be perfect!!

  • Jennifer Byrnes

    Would absolutely love this seat. The colors are so sharp and the size/limits fit our needs 🙂

  • Laura Thompson

    This would be awesome for Dads truck 🙂

  • Chelsea Nelson

    What a great seat at a great price point!!

  • kimberly V

    My Daughter would is not comfortable in her current seat, she prefers the Britax that was her sisters :/
    This looks comfy and would also work in my car!

  • MacKenzie R.

    I would love this for a travel/back up seat!

  • Would love to try ithe dot pattern 3 across and rear facing in the third row of my Dodge Grand Caravsn for my 12 month old.

  • Elaine Simpson

    After traveling with an evenflo and a pioneer this would have been a
    life saver!

  • I’m not sure a carseat can change my life, but it can prevent my life from changing. It can keep my son safely rear facing for longer, be used for our future third child instead of a bucket, and be narrow enough to allow us to keep our customized 4×4 when we have three children in carseats. We will be able to keep exploring our muddy forest roads, deep in the bush where we love to show the kids our natural world. We need this seat.

  • Would love to see a pic or hear a testimonial about the Cosco NEXT installed in a Honda Civic Coupe (we have a 2003)! Thanks for the great review 🙂

  • Steve

    Hello from Victoria. Fantastic website. We have a 2010 Honda Fit. Racking my brains and internet search skills trying to find a seat for a newborn that will work for us. This looks like one of the only options How does safety compare to the much more bulky looking and more expensive options out there If safety could be improved, we’d be happy to pay more. It’s just that I can’t confirm if any seat at all will fit rear facing without the passenger seat being moved up so far that knees start banging the glove box. Thanks for any advice!

  • Erika

    Can this car seat fit in one of those car seat compatible stroller frames Im just wondering as I go to the hospital often with my son and have to taxi. Hes a complex kid medically so we need to bring a lot of stuff and carrying around a stroller plus a car seat isnt exactly ideal.